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Mass comment / message : The pros and cons   

I have been on Yuwie for a bit more than a month and a half now and I have observed many different techniques to generate page views. Some of them were extremely creative and efficient, some were less.
Anyway, one that seems to be extremely popular with a lot of Yuwie members is the "Mass comment" technique.

Basically it's a technique to allow you to open simultaneously 50 friends options pages in 50 tabs, then to go through all theses pages to click the send comment link, paste a picture, a "hello world" or a marketing offer and click send. This generates 150 views in 15mn.

I clearly see some pros and cons to this technique, and I'll try to sum them up in this blog.

The pros

  • You generate much more than the basic 1000 views / month and much faster as well.
  • Your upliners will get a good commission from you because you are really active, so you make your upline happy.
  • You "keep in touch" with all your friends in your list, which can be very difficult once you have more than 100

The cons

  • This is a very repetitive and boring thing to do, so you might get bored in the process
  • Basically, what you are saying to your new referrals is "work for me like a robot to earn for me because I did it before you" which doesn't sound like the best referral motivator - indeed, the guy complain about his referrals being inactive.
  • - Some people, like me are getting tired of receiving so many impersonal pictures that they have to reject, and if they earn a view for each rejected comment, that is still irritating
  • This is at the opposite of the spirit of social networking Yuwie is based on.
    Social networking is about meeting and exchanging with people, it's about being creative, supportive to your friends, critical, informative, fun.
    Social networking is not about getting paid to click, this is mlm*, not social networking; when people join Yuwie, they are being told it's a social network, but when they enter and start to use it, they are asked to act like mlmers, so they are most likely to become sleepers since that will make them think it's the only way to earn anything on Yuwie.
    Moreover, they will come back to their old social network and tell all their friends about their bad experience, making theses friends impossible to refer for anyone else.
  • Many people use this technique in combination with picture comments. Theses picture comments are a huge overload the server and the user's pages and tend to push people to disallow html in comments, while html can be such a great help to link to a blog in answer to another blog.
  • This is pretty selfish practice since only you get the page views, so your commented friend feels his being "cheated" of his page view. Since I came up with the comments wall idea, I've seen dozens of profiles switching their comments to a blog and have started identifying the people who use this, so you are most likely not to get anymore page views from theses friends who are usually the people who really read pages and leave personal comments on your blogs and expect you to do the same in return.
  • Not sure about this one, but according to the help section, there is a 3 seconds minimum between each view, so if you open 50 tabs in one click, they are all opened in the same second, or at least all the requests are made in the one second, if not the loadings. The way I see it, but I might be wrong, if the Yuwie team answer that it's an ok method it's because you actually see all the pages and use them, so nothing wrong there, the problem of is this a paid view or not is actually your problem, not their.
    Let me put it another way - If you view 50 pages and only 3 are counting as paid, who is it better for ? you or yuwie ?
  • Finally, this doesn't require any creativity. Not sure it's a pro or a con, but I prefer to put it there. If FaceBook is getting very popular, I think it has a lot to do with the fact that users don't need to be creative to have fun with it, so that makes it an easier social network than MySpace.
    Still, I tend to think it's also what makes yuwie or myspace more interesting than facebook, so since this method is not creative, I believe it doesn't add value to the network and that makes it a con.


    • So my conclusion is clearly that this practice should be avoided, but still, I want to keep this an open discussion. I'm not on Yuwie for that long and I might not see all the aspects.

      Please post your impressions and the eventual other pros or cons that I didn't see.

      Thanks for reading!

      *mlm : Multi Level Marketing



Lol, it's been about 10 minutes this blog is published, and I already have 3 interesting reactions and 40 views.
Seems to be the hot subject of the day :)

Update #1 : My new conclusion is it's ok to use this technique to send / promote something informative / useful, but it is not ok to use it to send pictures or useless comment that don't add any value to the network.

Update #2
: Sandy wrote a very interesting blog about pretty much the same subject.
Read Why Sandy removed her comments section

Update #3 : At the request of the Yuwie member from whom I learned about this technique, I removed the link to his blog and all connections between our 2 blogs. He felt like he was under attack and preferred not to be associated to this blog. As he asked me to do so, I also removed the comments who mentioned his name. Sorry to my friends who posted theses comments, I really hate censorship but I hate more making someone feel bad. This member is a good blogger and is writing very informational blogs, so I'm doing this to show him I didn't mean any harm and I respect him and his opinions.
Feel free to repost your comments without mentioning him or at least not his name.
Thanks for your understanding.

Update #4 : During the conversation I had with the author, he said something very interesting about how I should have consulted him prior to writing this blog, so we could have elaborate the subject further before publishing. I agree on one point and disagree with the other.
I'm not supposed to consult him prior writing anything, what I write on my page is of my concern as Frey said in his comment, so I disagree on this.
I agree that I shouldn't have linked his blog since I didn't agree with his opinion. That makes him look bad, he felt offended and now I can see why. Sorry for this mate, I hope you'll understand that was just a mistake, we all have to learn somewhere, which is why I posted our conversation. Hopefully people won't do the same mistake as me and will be careful before giving an opposite point of view on someone's writing.


Have also a look at this excellent related post by Thomas, one of the old Yuwie members.

- Chain mails vs duplication


Posted: 12/30/2007 at 04:33Read 845 times | 54 comments | Leave Comment 
Good blog - thank you for posting.

I've been on Yuwie since mid August and LOVE it.

Mass commenting - I like it when I am able to get to all my friends and just say HEY!!!

Reply | 4/14/2008 5:26:30 PM
I like this topic! and I'll be linking this to my Universal Yuwie Guide ! I just laugh at all those people who mass comment 'thinking' that they will be creating a massive earnings solely based on their own activity on Yuwie. 'Them' spending so much time doing a repetitive action will definitely lose interest in time until they realize how to have a good time on Yuwie! thanks again Marco.

-Yuwasia
Reply | 4/13/2008 9:09:02 AM
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Reply | 3/18/2008 10:15:21 PM
definitely! took the words out of my mouth =)
Reply | 3/11/2008 10:29:54 PM
Marco,
Hey hon, reading thru here I keep hearing how you can make so much money here. I just dont see it tho. Have you ever been paid? How do they pay, is it by views,or clks or refls. Like so much cents on how many thousand views or adds tho?? im just trying to imagine wat to do here I have so many other websites its really hard to keep up! So a lil Friendly Advice Request Here. Thanks a Mill...Angel
Ps T/C
Reply | 3/4/2008 8:33:04 AM
showing my love
Reply | 3/2/2008 9:58:53 AM
well..im drinking coffee too..lol..but im in my house..where should i leave you comment?is it ok if i leave it here?
Reply | 3/2/2008 2:17:26 AM
yes im from the phil...good guess...lol...so how are you doing there?
Reply | 3/2/2008 1:39:54 AM
thanks for the info and thanks for the add.
Reply | 3/2/2008 1:14:47 AM
'When I see all the great people through out history and see the great things one person has accomplished it makes me realize GOD'
Reply | 2/28/2008 9:24:15 PM
Hi Marco, great to hear from you again. Yep, my tree is growing, slowly but growing...hoping to see more ripe fruit :)
Have you heard that Yuwie's gonna be upgraded with pro servers, finally. The time is Wed midnight EST...thats tonight! lol, better reply some msgs quick! :D
Keep in touch as always!

http://www.yuwie.com/blog/entry.asp?id=284&eid=277130&r=284
Reply | 2/27/2008 10:43:42 AM
So much in here to absorb Marco, and of course I had to click every link and read that then come back here to finish....an hour later! I think I will take some time to absorb a bit first!
Reply | 2/5/2008 4:22:57 AM
Hi Marco..you should be a world leader.
Reply | 1/31/2008 5:04:40 AM
Well, you'll be pleased to know that everything I do, I do manually. You did make some pretty good points tho, several that hadn't even crossed my mind. I think I've made the decision not to download it after all...to be honest, I've been mulling it over a while. Thanks for the post.
PS: by 'manually' I mean I 'view profile' before I do anything else, so if you don't want anymore graphic comments, lemme know. No biggie.
Reply | 1/30/2008 8:19:52 PM
I've only ever posted a picture comment on someones page and that was on quite a few of my friends pages yesterday. I'd heard about the 3 second rule so when I was doing it I took my time, checked out their profile for any changes rather than opening 50 different profiles in one go. Plus the picture was something i'd made out of a photo of my cat I had taken so it was a bit more personal. I don't mind people leaving me picture comments like that but I tend to just type a little hello, how you doing? that type of thing.
Reply | 1/26/2008 7:11:38 AM
Sorry, I just remembered you deleted the whole posting because of the argument with the other Yuwie member, nevermind.
Yeah I am flying today like in 3 hours, thats why I am online, still making my luggage. Catch you back when I am in Berkeley again.
Jaime
Reply | 1/24/2008 5:05:28 AM
Hey Marco, what happened to my replies, I guessed you deleted them. I must admit, I use linky to send messages to my downline, and to add my downline, and send them comments helping them out.

I have actually asked my referrals to blog their downline links, so that I can add them. Then I use linky to add them and save like 80% of the time.

Using it to increase your own page views is not very smart. But I think linky is a great tool, one of many I have found here in Yuwie.
Reply | 1/24/2008 4:27:41 AM
Pretty much a biased blog but then it is your blog on your page. :)

Anyway a fun read through the comments. Thanks.
Reply | 1/23/2008 5:24:51 AM
Hey, Marco, it was good to hear from you. Bangkok, hunh? Cool. Yes, please do chill out. I know how you feel, though. I'm not working anymore...lol...I just hate jobs, but I've got to do something. So, I'm back to being a Yuwie Junkie and stirrin' up stuff. Just finished a blog about President Bush...LOL...OMG! One guy wanted to rip me a new a*****e, he was so pissed!...LOL...but I showed him the error of his ways, and he apologized, so everything's cool. I also have one that's really just pictures, but it carries a loud message about how we're being screwed with gas prices. Anyway, take it easy and come by to visit when you get back.
Reply | 1/17/2008 1:17:43 AM
I was just thinking that is hillary clinton or john mccain become our next president I may be moving to cambodia. :)
Reply | 1/13/2008 5:56:32 PM
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